Rebol Talk's officially Open to the Public

[DefiantPc]

Thank you for visiting the Rebol Talk forum.

I realize that many of you  are currently members of the mailing list and therefore reluctant to devide your time between the list and the forum.

I would however like to point out that forums have many features that closely resemble a mailing list.
For example you can subscribe to any or all forums or topics and have the posts appear as plain text in your e-mail.

Furthermore, forums keep all the information exchanged between members and guests in a nicely formatted archive that can easily be browsed or searched.

This feature alone is an excellent resource to those new to the language and beneficial to the entire community.

To learn the in's and out's of the forum and how to set up your subscriptions & e-mail take a minute to visit the rebol tour section of the forum.

Thank you for taking the time to stop by and hope to see you here often.

-Mj  

[jimrichards]

It's about time Rebol got a hangout place.  This has been needed for a long time and it looks great too.  Keep up the good work.  

Thanks
Jim

[GedB]

Have you posted RebolTalk on the Rebol links page?

http://www.rebol.net/links.html

Theres a link at the bottom for new submissions.

[carloslorenz]

Thank you for visiting the Rebol Talk forum.

I realize that many of you  are currently members of the mailing list and therefore reluctant to devide your time between the list and the forum.

I would however like to point out that forums have many features that closely resemble a mailing list.
For example you can subscribe to any or all forums or topics and have the posts appear as plain text in your e-mail.

Furthermore, forums keep all the information exchanged between members and guests in a nicely formatted archive that can easily be browsed or searched.

This feature alone is an excellent resource to those new to the language and beneficial to the entire community.

To learn the in's and out's of the forum and how to set up your subscriptions & e-mail take a minute to visit the rebol tour section of the forum.

Thank you for taking the time to stop by and hope to see you here often.

-Mj

I've put a link to this Forum at the Forum I have in Brazil
http://www.nobrenet.com/rebolbrasil/viewto...pic.php?p=88#88

[DefiantPc]

Welcome carloslorenz, I added your forum link to the REBOL Websites section.

[carloslorenz]

Welcome carloslorenz, I added your forum link to the REBOL Websites section.

I have seen it today. Thanks    

[Sunanda]

Thanks for setting up this forum.  You also have a link from REBOL.org:

REBOL.org links page

Sunanda

[andrew]

Hi everybody,

I have been studying REBOL for more than one month.  It's a fantastic language and IMHO is suitable for dataprocessing applications as well.  

I intend to use REBOL to develop small business dataprocessing systems.  The only thing that is holding me back is MYSQL is new to me and it is also not the  database which my present suitable client uses.  They use foxbase 2.1.  Most people in the company are conversant with it.  New dataprocessing programs or reports which require some scripting are commonly written within a day or two.

Rebol/France has generously contributed an xbase reader but that is difficult (for a beginner like me) to hack and use it in my REBOL programs.  Also, it does not update xbase file indexes.

There is a strong case for xbase utiilities to be made available to xbase programmers.  Xbase programmers are in great numbers and they are used to manipulating flat files databases in a simple way.  This simplicity is akin to REBOL's use of text files.  Also, if REBOL gurus/experts can advise on (or implement) multi-user record or file locking, many business application programmers will be attracted to use REBOL/VIEW for developing data-processing systems.

Xbase library utilities could be developed as a REBOL dialect .

I hope some REBOL experts can followup on this. Developing an xbase library will quickly expand the user base of REBOL into the small  business dataprocessing arena where the big boys tend to ignore.  REBOL can quickly gain acceptance and carve its niche in small business applications.  Small businesess are also now interested in web base applications.

Best wishes to all REBOLers. Like all of you,  I love all the simplicity, efficiency, compactness and beauty that REBOL presents.
Please help REBOL to be a universal simple database language just as xbase (DOS) was in the 1980s.  REBOL/View is the perfect GUI complement to xbase.









 

[Gregg]

I agree. I've thought, more than once, about pursuing an xbase module for REBOL, but I didn't know how much use it would get. I don't really need it myself, but think it would be good for REBOL to have. The big thing holding me back is the SKIP bug on open/direct files. Could still be useful for DBs of reasonable sizes though.

[andrew]

Hi Gregg,

the following list of software will give the REBOLer a  complete battle kit for software development efficiency :

- apache 2
- easyRSP
- rebol/core
- rebol/view
- xbase

Please do not think that xbase (the last component) is optional.  Existing xbase applications need to be maintained.  These days software budgets are limited.  Software modules are added, amended or made redundant one at a time.  New features or replacement modules must work seamlessly with existing systems.  The daily dataprocessing needs of a company must go on while changes are taking place.  Xbase compatibility will encourage many programmers to try out REBOL.  
Rebolution will be quiet and massive.  
In time, everyone will have to recognise the power and efficiency of REBOL.  This will create demand for REBOL programmers and in turn REBOL; making REBOL a universal language standard.

I strongly urge you to develop the xbase component if you have the ability.  What is the bug in SKIP ?

Best Regards.

[Gregg]

SKIP doesn't work on files opened in /direct mode (i.e. unbuffered). RT says the fix is basically done, but it's tied to other things that aren't set to be released, so that's the hold-up apparently. Not entirely sure though. Second-hand information and all that. :-)

Would a solution be useful that didn't work on files larger than available memory?

[Graham]

One should be able to access dBase files using /Command and ODBC.  However, officially support is only for Oracle, Access and mysql.

I think it would be too much work for the return to implement a Rebol xbase implementation.

[Guest]

Thanks Gregg for your reply. The other solutions like RebDB, mySQL doesn't suit my needs because I need to convert programs one at a time while still maintaining data storage compatibility.  

You will agree with me that project risks and costs are considered high if you approach management and tell them that they do away with what they have and develop a new system; especially if you tell them that the new system will be written in REBOL?.  

For REBOL to easily gain acceptance in the dataprocessing arena, programmers must be able to convert individual programs (without committing to a total system rewrite) to demonstrate that REBOL is  compatible, compact, powerful, easy to maintain, extensible when compared with other main stream langugages.  

The reason why many mainstream languages are popular eg.  Delphi and Java,  is because they have many database utilities (including source codes ) freely available.

If my interest in REBOL maintains, I will try to develop the xbase utilities eventually.