send and SMTP

[Evan]

I am trying
>> send erhawkins@verizon.net "hello"

The net/trace follows...
I understand the server is looking for my password ??
How do I make this work ??
Mirosoft OUtlook works fine but I want to use REBOL.
ANy help appreciated
Thanks
Evan


>> /C/Rebol/
>> Net-log: ["Opening" "tcp" "for" "smtp"]
connecting to: outgoing.verizon.net
Net-log: [none "220"]
Net-log: {220 out007.verizon.net ESMTP server (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) ready Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:44:36 -0500}
Net-log: [["HELO" system/network/host] "250"]
Net-log: "250 out007.verizon.net"
Net-log: "MAIL FROM: <erhawkins@verizon.net>"
Net-log: [none "250"]
** User Error: Server error: tcp 553 Authentication is required to send mail as <erhawkins@verizon.net>
** Near: insert port reduce data

[Stoop]

Yes this one is a pain and I have never been able to get it to work properly despite several scripts online that are supposed to help.

Basically the send in REBOL does not allow for authenticating with your SMTP server, which seems nuts as it obviously supports autenticating with your POP server.

People have been complaining about this for years, but I don't know if or when we will ever see a version of REBOl that supports this fundamental requirement.  REBOL/Core hasn't been updated in over a year.

[Gabriele]

/Core has been updated monthly in the last few months.

About SMTP auth, well, everyone does it its own way. In particular, often MS servers use the NTLM authentication that is not documented and MS proprietary (you need to use Windows DLLs to be able to authenticate via NTLM). So it's not a matter of laziness.

[Guest_Evan]

Thanks for both replies.  Both appear to make valid points neither of which solves my problem.
REBOL is touted as a means to simplify, but I guess MICROSOFT can readlily trump these attempts.
Evan  

[Gabriele]

Did you try any of the ESMTP scripts in the library? ( www.rebol.org ) If so adn they didn't work, I suggest you posting a message to the mailing list, maybe there's someone that can help you. (Note: there is an implementation of NTLM auth done by DocKimbel, but it requires /Pro as it uses Windows' DLLs.)

[Stynki]

I use verizon too and had the same problem way back. I used Esmtp and esend and popspec with good results.

Place esmtp.r and esend.r in the rebol directory.

In your script or at the prompt:

do %esmtp.r
do %esend.r

now when you send a message you just use 'esend' instead of 'send'.

I just tested it with my verizon account. It worked.